August 20, 2022

Melinda Gates trashed her ex-husband Invoice for his questionable friendship with pedophile Jeffrey Epstein and revealed that he continued to fulfill with him regardless of her having ‘nightmares’ about him. 

In her first interview since her divorce from the billionaire final 12 months, Melinda instructed CBS Mornings that she insisted on assembly Epstein again in 2011 as a result of she wished to see ‘who this man was’. 

‘I didn’t like that he had conferences with Jeffrey Epstein. I made that clear to him. I additionally met Jeffrey Epstein precisely one time. I wished to see who this man was and I regretted it from the second I stepped within the door. 

‘He was abhorrent, evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards. That’s why my coronary heart breaks for these younger girls. That’s how I felt, and I’m an older girl. He was terrible.’ 

She instructed host Gayle King that Invoice needed to reply the numerous occasions he met Epstein, and even advised that it contributed to the divorce. 

‘It was not one factor, it was many issues [that led to the divorce]. Any of the questions remaining about what Invoice’s relationship with him was… these are for Invoice to reply. I made it very clear how I felt about him.’ 

Melinda revealed how; 

  • She cried ‘on the carpet’ at occasions whereas working by the divorce that they introduced in Might final 12 months 
  • She had forgiven Invoice for a 2000 affair however he needed to reply to studies of a number of affairs 
  • The pair are ‘pleasant’ now however are usually not ‘mates’: ‘I want him nicely,’ she mentioned 
  • She is ‘dipping her toe’ into relationship once more and finds it ‘fascinating’ 
  • Each billionaire ought to give away not less than half of their wealth  
  • She doesn’t blame herself for the divorce, saying ‘I did nothing incorrect, I maintain my head excessive’ 
  • She has launched her personal firm now referred to as Pivotal Ventures however will proceed to work at The Gates Basis  

The interview was filmed on the places of work of Melinda’s new firm, Pivotal Ventures, in Seattle.   


Melinda Gates in her CBS interview. She lifted the lid on her marriage to Invoice Gates for the primary time, telling how the belief of their relationship was damaged by his 2000 affair 

Bill Gates in Jeffrey Epstein's Upper East Side mansion, the scene of many of his crimes, in 2011 - after the pedophile had spent time in prison for having sex with minors

Invoice Gates in Jeffrey Epstein’s Higher East Facet mansion, the scene of lots of his crimes, in 2011 – after the pedophile had hung out in jail for having intercourse with minors 

Melinda additionally revealed that she and Invoice are usually not mates however are ‘pleasant’ and work collectively,  and she or he advised he had multiple affair all through their 27-year-marriage.

 He was abhorrent, evil personified. I had nightmares about it afterwards.

‘These are questions Invoice must reply,’ she mentioned when requested about studies he cheated a number of occasions. He beforehand acknowledged one affair. 

‘I imagine in forgiveness. I assumed we had labored by a few of that,’ Melinda mentioned of his 2000 affair with a Microsoft worker. I gave each single piece of myself to this marriage. I used to be dedicated from the day we obtained engaged to the day I obtained out of it.’   

Invoice has mentioned prior to now that assembly with Epstein a number of occasions was a ‘enormous’ mistake and error in judgement. 

In a press release to CBS, he mentioned: ‘Assembly with Epstein was a mistake that I remorse deeply. It was a considerable error in judgement.’ 

Elsewhere within the interview, Melinda instructed of being in ‘tears’ concerning the divorce moments earlier than having to attend a Gates basis assembly, and the way she is relationship once more. 

‘I hope that occurs for me once more. I’m dipping my toe within the water a bit bit,’ she mentioned, including that she ‘undoubtedly’ desires to be in love once more. 

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She mentioned relationship was ‘fascinating at this level’ however didn’t give any extra particulars.    

The interview was filmed at the offices of Melinda's new company, Pivotal Ventures, in Seattle. The company involves Melinda investing in female-driven ventures

The interview was filmed on the places of work of Melinda’s new firm, Pivotal Ventures, in Seattle. The corporate includes Melinda investing in female-driven ventures 

The 57-year-old, who shocked the world when she and Invoice introduced in Might 2021 that they have been ending their 27-year marriage, beforehand instructed how she endured emotionally difficult occasions while working with the billionaire.

The pair’s divorce was finalized privately in Washington – the place their Gates Basis is predicated – in August. 

The phrases of it have been by no means made public however Invoice was value round $152billion on the time, giving Melinda a 50 % settlement of $76billion. That doesn’t embody the couple’s huge property portfolio which comprised of houses in New York, Washington, and California. 

In a preview of the interview, Melinda took a swipe at her ex’s infidelity, saying: ‘I gave each single piece of myself to this marriage. I used to be dedicated from the day we obtained engaged to the day we ended it.’ 


 Melinda revealed that Invoice’s 2000 affair with a Microsoft worker ‘broke’ the belief of their marriage, and likewise advised that he was untrue greater than as soon as.  

Kingasked Melinda: ‘As soon as belief is damaged, isn’t it arduous to get it again?’ to which the philanthropist responded: ‘Very, it’s very arduous to get it again, in any relationship.’  

‘I definitely imagine in forgiveness so I assumed we had labored by a few of that,’ she mentioned of the couple’s try to work by Invoice’s affair. 

‘It wasn’t one second or one particular factor that occurred, there simply got here a time limit the place there was sufficient there that I spotted it simply wasn’t wholesome, and I couldn’t belief what we had.’ 

Requested for her response to studies that Invoice cheated a number of occasions, she replied: ‘These are questions Invoice must reply.’ 

Bill and Melinda were married for 27 years before announcing their split last May. They are shown together (left) in 2017 and Bill is shown (right) at the Munich Security Conference last month

Bill Gates at the Munich Security Conference last month

Invoice and Melinda have been married for 27 years earlier than saying their cut up final Might. They’re proven collectively (left) in 2017 and Invoice is proven (proper) on the Munich Safety Convention final month

A spokesman for Invoice beforehand acknowledged that he had an affair, however that it had nothing to do with him stepping down from the board at Microsoft in 2020. 

‘There was an affair nearly 20 years in the past which ended amicably. 

‘Invoice’s resolution to transition off the board was under no circumstances associated to this matter. The truth is, he had expressed an curiosity in spending extra time on his philanthropy beginning a number of years earlier,’ a spokesman instructed The Wall Avenue Journal final 12 months. 


Melinda spoke about how, regardless of the couple going by their divorce behind the scenes, they have been nonetheless in a position to work ‘successfully collectively’. 

‘To start with we each wish to work collectively – we based this establishment in 2000 – each of us. It has each of our names on the constructing. 

‘I imagine in that establishment, my values are baked into that establishment. So I’ve all the time felt prefer it calls us to be our increased selves.

‘Even through the troublesome occasions within the final 18 months whereas we have been going by this course of behind the scenes, we have been in a position to present up and work successfully collectively. 

‘I’m not saying it was simple however I’m saying for me I had days the place I had tears the hour earlier than a web based assembly or I’d be offended however I nonetheless rose to be my increased self and I feel we will proceed to try this.’ 

She mentioned the pair are usually not but ‘mates’ however are ‘pleasant’.  

‘We definitely have a working relationship. We’re pleasant at this level. Mates is a special phrase for me. Which may come over time however for me there may be nonetheless therapeutic that should occur. 

‘I want him nicely. I definitely don’t want him any hurt. 

‘We’ve a productive working relationship and I feel that can proceed,’ she mentioned. 


Melinda spoke candidly about sobbing on the ground as her marriage fell aside, and whereas she was working ‘by’ the divorce. 

She mentioned she by no means thought their marriage would finish in divorce.

‘I by no means thought I’d finish it being divorced. I wanted to take a special path. And so I feel, you realize, we knew that when the divorce was gonna be introduced that it might be a shock to individuals. 

‘I felt unhealthy about that, however I in all probability, I didn’t have any sense of how huge of stories it might be. You by no means, you possibly can’t anticipate one thing like that. 

‘I feel it’s actually vital to say, look, I had a variety of tears for a lot of days, I imply days the place I’m actually mendacity on the ground on the carpet… considering, ‘How can this be? How can I stand up? How am I going to maneuver ahead?” she revealed.  

The ex-couple, who share three kids (pictured), have not publicly spoken out about the split, however Bill is reported to have blamed himself in an off-the-record Q&A session back in July

The ex-couple, who share three youngsters (pictured), haven’t publicly spoken out concerning the cut up, nevertheless Invoice is reported to have blamed himself in an off-the-record Q&A session again in July 

‘[There were] days [where] I definitely was offended. That’s a part of the grieving course of. You’re grieving a lack of one thing you thought you had and thought you had to your lifetime. That is painful stuff. 

‘On the finish of the day although I began on this journey of therapeutic and I really feel like I’m beginning to get to the opposite aspect. And I do really feel like I’m turning a web page within the chapter now. It’s 2022 and I’m truly actually enthusiastic about what’s to return and life forward of me.’ 

She added: ‘I don’t query myself now, in no way. I gave each single piece of myself to this marriage. I used to be dedicated to the wedding from the day we obtained engaged to the day I obtained out of it.  

‘Society used to place this on girls prefer it was our fault. I did nothing incorrect. I maintain my head excessive.’  


Melinda additionally used the interview to inform different billionaires to provide away the vast majority of their wealth, as she does. 

She arrange The Giving Pledge together with her ex-husband and Warren Buffett with the intention of encouraging the world’s richest individuals to donate their cash to charity. 

 In case you are fortunate sufficient to be a billionaire, imagine me – you may give half of it away and it’ll not change your life

Others who’ve joined it embody Jeff Bezos’ ex-wife MacKenzie. Jeff has not signed as much as it. 

Melinda mentioned of her philanthropy: ‘I do really feel that in case you are fortunate sufficient to be a billionaire, imagine me – you may give half of it away and it’ll not change your life. 

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‘We should always. We should always have a society the place in case you have wealth, you place it again into society so to change and uplift others.’  

The interview – which marks the primary time that Melinda has publicly addressed her cut up from Invoice – comes 10 months after the previous couple first revealed to the world that they have been separating, and simply seven months after they finalized their $130 billion divorce settlement. 

Whereas Invoice and Melinda have remained silent about what prompted their cut up, simply weeks after their announcement, the Microsoft founder was rocked by a number of accusations that he behaved inappropriately in the direction of feminine staff on the tech firm. 

In Might 2021, a number of studies surfaced claiming the billionaire pursued extramarital affairs with girls working at Microsoft; that very same month, Invoice’s spokesperson confirmed that he’d had an affair with a feminine employees member in 2000, whereas he was married to Melinda. 

Invoice was CEO of the corporate on the time. It isn’t clear what place or degree of seniority the worker was. 

The affair stayed a secret till 2019 when the worker wrote a letter to the board detailing what had occurred and allegedly asking that Melinda learn it.

The corporate opened an investigation into the claims.

Whereas the investigation was nonetheless ongoing in March 2020, Invoice shocked the enterprise world by saying he was resigning from his place on the corporate board. 

The identical day Invoice stood down from the board of Berkshire Hathaway, run by his good friend Warren Buffet. 

Then, in June of final 12 months, he introduced that he was stepping down from the board of the Gates Basis, which he and Melinda based collectively, and which she continues to play an lively function in as co-chair of the board. 

Though Invoice has by no means spoken publicly concerning the cut up, he’s reported to have instructed attendees on the Solar Valley convention in Idaho in July that the divorce was ‘his fault’. 

Whereas attending the so-called ‘billionaire summer season camp’, the Microsoft founder opened up concerning the couple’s pending divorce in an ‘off the report’ question-and-answer session, in accordance with the New York Submit.

Within the session, a tearful Invoice reportedly admitted that the breakdown of the wedding was his fault. 

‘He fessed as much as messing up,’ one attendee instructed the Submit. ‘He principally referred to the truth that it [the divorce] was his fault.’

The supply added: ‘He did appear a bit emotional about it. He might need been on the verge of tears.’

Nevertheless, within the seven months since their divorce was finalized, the previous couple has placed on an amicable show, coming collectively in October final 12 months to host the marriage of their eldest baby Jennifer, who tied the knot with Egyptian equestrian Nayel Nassar in a lavish ceremony at her 142-acre property in North Salem, New York.

Melinda has additionally thrown herself into the battle for gender equality, pledging in June 2021 that the Gates Basis would spend $2.1 billion on the trigger over 5 years – one of many largest single commitments the group had made in additional than 20 years.

The philanthropist’s pledge appeared to ship a transparent message about her cut up from her ex-husband; Melinda had lengthy pushed for gender equality to be a key precedence for the Seattle-based basis, whereas Invoice had as a substitute prioritized polio eradication and the event of vaccines.